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Superseded: Rosenblatt's Lemmas 4.8-4.9 without the abelian hypothesis — use Chou.fg_of_isVirtuallyPolycyclic_quotient_of_not_hasFreeSubsemigroupOfRankTwo

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Chou.fg_of_isFinitelyPresented_quotient_of_not_hasFreeSubsemigroupOfRankTwo

by dbenbenn · Sep 19, 2026 · Mathlib 0df444a (Lean v4.33.1)

amenable-groupselementary-amenable-groupsgroup-growthgroup-theory

Let BBB be a finitely generated group with no free subsemigroup on two generators (no pair a,b∈Ba, b \in Ba,b∈B such that distinct positive words in a,ba, ba,b give distinct elements), and let AAA be a normal subgroup of BBB such that the quotient B/AB/AB/A is finitely presented. Then AAA is finitely generated.

This is the “no free subsemigroup” form of Milnor's Lemmas 1 and 2: Rosenblatt's Lemma 4.8 (for each a∈Aa \in Aa∈A, b∈Bb \in Bb∈B the conjugates bkab−kb^k a b^{-k}bkab−k span a finitely generated subgroup) combined with Lemma 4.9 (AAA is normally generated by finitely many elements), as Chou applies them in the proof of Theorem 3.2′ without the hypothesis that AAA is abelian. The statement is not asserted in this form by either paper; it is the step Chou's induction needs.

Superseded. The same correction as for the exponentially bounded twin: Rosenblatt's Lemma 4.9 gives normal generation, not finite generation, and the assembly needs a normal form for the quotient that a finite presentation does not supply. The form Chou's proof uses is Chou.fg_of_isVirtuallyPolycyclic_quotient_of_not_hasFreeSubsemigroupOfRankTwo.

Preamble
import Definitions.Def_Chou_Growth
import Mathlib
Formal statement
namespace Chou

/-- Rosenblatt's Lemmas 4.8 and 4.9 (Trans. Amer. Math. Soc. 193 (1974), pp. 42–43), Milnor's Lemmas
1 and 2 with “no free subsemigroup on two generators” in place of “exponentially bounded”, in the
form Chou's proof of Theorem 3.2′ applies them (p. 401, “with the understanding that A doesn't have
to be abelian there”): in a finitely generated group with no free subsemigroup on two generators, a
normal subgroup with finitely presented quotient is finitely generated. -/
theorem fg_of_isFinitelyPresented_quotient_of_not_hasFreeSubsemigroupOfRankTwo {G : Type*} [Group G]
    [Group.FG G] (hfree : ¬ HasFreeSubsemigroupOfRankTwo G) (N : Subgroup G) [N.Normal]
    [Group.IsFinitelyPresented (G ⧸ N)] : Group.FG N := by
  sorry

end Chou
Source
Rosenblatt, J. M., Invariant measures and growth conditions, Transactions of the American Mathematical Society 193 (1974) 33–53, https://doi.org/10.1090/S0002-9947-1974-0342955-9, Lemma 4.8 p. 42 and Lemma 4.9 p. 43, combined and with the abelian hypothesis on A removed as in Chou, C., Elementary amenable groups, Illinois Journal of Mathematics 24 (1980) 396–407, https://doi.org/10.1215/ijm/1256047608, p. 401 (proof of Theorem 3.2′: “we may apply Lemmas 4.8 and 4.9 in [21] together with the understanding that A doesn't have to be abelian there”)

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